from Valentina Piontkovskaya
A delegation of the Moldovan officials has recently visited Estonia to study the best practices in e-Governance of this country. 15-20 years ago, the ICT sector in both former Soviet republics was developing from near the same level but today the results are quite different. A recent survey of the World Economic Forum gives Estonia the 26th place for the networked Readiness Index 2010–2011 among 138 countries. Moldova is only 97th. We are discussing an issue of changing attitudes from “we cannot because” to “how to do it” with the creative IT Manager and eGovernance coach from Estonia Mr. Virgo Riispapp.
Q.: Mr Riispapp, you may see among the comments of our local specialists on the virtual ICT forums for Moldova that one of the obstacles in implementing e-Government in Moldova is a “wrong mentality” of officials in ICT use. How did you cope with this problem in Estonia?
A.: It’s always easier to say we “cannot do that” or “that is not allowed” by someone even there are enough resources. “No” is always the first answer before thinking. Those are well known phrases but the root cause is sometimes simple, people are lazy or they really don’t know what solutions are available.
Best case scenario here is to talk with real workers and ask silly questions to get them talking, they will reveal the curtain from their job and soon we can find out what really bothers them and what is their “wet dream” and after that it’s easy to propose some technical solutions. People tend to focus on asset than goal, but asset isn’t a goal (it is sometimes forgotten).
When we started in the Estonian Police, there wasn’t even a prototype of information in Internet what we wanted to build. But we had a vision and a goal, what is needed for and after, than came action plans and to do lists.
There should be a small group in place with willingness to do something and one of that groups should have the power to populate the ideas to legislation. It’s a long process I know but I have seen several ways how to do something what we have done here and haven’t seen so far any good success choosing other way to do it. Mentality will change if the first steps are made to create a basement for infrastructure but it won’t come overnight.
I hope that I understand correctly “wrong mentality” is said by citizens to government, but they have their own regulations and authorities what they should follow. There is a need to understand both sides. Looking at that picture, I have always told that regulations and tight rules are created by humans and we can change that.
Another issue is, if development is ending and we should start implementation process and workforce gets their training, but they won’t use it until the day when their performance is measured through a new system or trough new working habits. You’ll get what you measure;) I had the same thing with first units in police vehicles. We installed all equipment, system was working flawlessly but no-one liked it and no-one wanted to use it.
After digging to their psychology and hearing their anonymous comments from several places we decided to go en route to business side product owner. Product owner knows everything what he can do with that solution and can describe how it helps to do their job. Business side was talking with business side and it was a big relief for me. Both parties are equal and understand each other from half word and technical side is only supporter and can explain how the system works in that particular way and not other.
But technical people are not talking with business people with their language, because in the business terms, the IT guys are dumb enough to take down their credibility, and with that also the systems credibility, even the fact that system is working flawlessly. Today we have more innovative ideas than we have resources to develop and implement. (It is a direct change in mentality).
And there is a huge problem, when the salary is terrible compared to private company’s average. Then there are other values to advertise to get applicants with correct attitude. When I’m writing this I got thinking, is it working in other culture otherwise….. ? I mean that there are some people, whose willingness to do something is bigger than the salary what they get every month (it should only be enough to live).
Q. One more obstacle observed for Moldova e-Transformation was digital divide between capital and regions with less developed fixed broadband infrastructure, lack of money to buy computers, etc. For these reasons, an electronic voting in the country was recently postponed for the next 4 years. What way this problem was solved in your country?
A.: An old question – which one was first, egg or chicken? Why we need an infrastructure when we don’t have the services to run on? From my point of view, it’s hard to tell from where to start digging to find a solution. I can tell you our practice. It was the government-owned fixed lines company which made a roadmap “broadband to every home” (today ca 13 years ago). Company invested their own money to development and the government wasn’t taking any money from the company’s net profit.
So, there is a possibility to use ADSL where the copper lines for telephony exist, but there are places without copper or fiber ones and in such places there is a possibility to use cellular broadband. In competition between private companies it can’t cost much. And now the Telco Company is pushing the additional services (IPTV, VoD, home security, etc.) on same infrastructure.
If people can’t afford their own computers/smartphones, we opened free open internet access points for them with computers inside, and they were placed into the libraries or any other secure places. It’s free access to internet for everyone. Nowadays there is also Wi-Fi coverage around the open internet points, and mostly foreign travellers are using them a lot. Here it is like an unwritten agreement that Wi-Fi is added value – not a business model what I see all around the world, and there is a bunch of free software around to do your things online.
Talking about government e-services popularity, I don’t know from my experience any e-service what went popular form the start. Is has been an evolution of services. I remember first e-voting, there were, if I remember correctly, only ca 10 000 e-votes. This year there was over 140k. The problem in the beginning was that there weren’t enough ID cards around, because people can live without it. But authentication service with the government support was there, and after that the government and private companies can build their own services based on one core service on infrastructure.
The core authentication service allows us to sign digital documents and it gives the freedom of location and it’s totally okay to sign your documents when abroad, airport, on-road. In some day you’ll realize, that your life is easier with that card/ecosystem than without it (and there are lot of examples).
There should be also choices in every location, as I mentioned before. Choice will make the broadband service less costly and competition drives the future. Fixed broadband gives us a wider range of services to use. Cellular broadband with their speeds are some steps behind but their plus is mobility. It’s a second side of the medal. I am sure, that internet is definitely necessary to use e-services, but it isn’t necessarily broadband. It depends on the service and what kind of connection you need.
If I’m a copywriter/journalist/real estate broker and I need only to send emails, browse some web pages and maybe sometimes upload some pictures, then 57k GPRS is totally enough. If I’m a programmer/IT support/audio-video creator I need broadband.
When we developed a mobile solution for the patrol police officers to fit in a car, the maximum internet speed what we got was 57k and lowest 9,6k, and business requirement was that those queries should go faster (2 seconds). So, we had to develop a service keeping that in mind. In the end of the day we developed our own protocol which is advancement of open source, implemented server side cashing and packing, added specific security protocols and built direct gateway between police and GPRS provider.
After that, the development officer will get their information within seconds, and information is coming simultaneously from 12 state and 3 international databases in that short time. With those moves we drastically lowered data bandwidth usage and got monthly expenses down by more than 10 times!
And I must say, that they get necessary amount of information no matter where they are (we have tried it in Germany and Finland, and it just works). Internet is a tool how to consume e-products and it isn’t bothering me, how the internet arrives to my laptop, smartphone or CarPC.
Q.: I know that e-services infrastructure in Estonia is shared by both the state structures and the private ones, and it generates more variety of e-services in the country. Why the private companies are ready to share their data base with the state, do you have a special regulation to prevent conflict of interests in this field?
A.: In a banking sector there are money laundering rules what law enforcement and banks should apply. And, therefore, investigators have access to transaction database. From data retention, legislation comes to the need of investigators that they need to have an access to phone call logs. Banks are using the government authentication service to have the best class in security in access to manage your money.
Of course, in the beginning there were many conflicts, but if there is a will there is a go.
Interviewed by Valentina Piontkovskaya




